One of the most interesting students I’ve had the pleasure of
coaching is a young man by the name of Ryan (aka Duck) who recently
completed School of Attraction’s “Sincere Seduction Intensive” course.
Ryan is one of the smartest and most hard working guys I’ve ever met
and his hard work paid off for him by taking him from being relatively
nervous and hesitant at the start of the course to now having virtually
unmatched fearlessness in his ability to approach almost any women in
almost any situation.
Here’s my recent interview with Ryan where he discusses his Pickup
and Dating journey so far, reviews School of Attraction’s “Sincere
Seduction Intensive” course and gives some valuable insights into how
others can achieve similar levels of fearlessness as him…
DayGameAdam: “Duck” is an interesting nickname to have, why did you pick that name and what does it represent about you?
Actually, I just chose the first thing that came to my mind when I
signed up for the Masculine Confidence Intensive course because I was so
motivated to get all the admin out of the way so I could focus on
learning and taking action. It’s been a weakness of mine in the past to
think too much, and act too little. So I just went with whatever came up
first. But in hindsight, it wasn’t such a bad choice. Everybody else
seems to have very “bad-ass” names, whereas mine is more true to my
personality. I am the ugly duckling in terms of how much I have to
learn, but I’ll get there.
DayGameAdam: How would you describe your previous experience with
women prior to joining School of Attraction’s Masculine Confidence
Intensive course?
Very limited, to the point where I’m embarrassed. I was always the
shy guy in high school, and I also didn’t think very much of myself. I
never thought I had what it takes to be good enough for a woman. I was
hard on myself for not having the best body and things like this. I was
very picky about my flaws, and I was a perfectionist about everything.
So I basically steered clear of women, I was just the really nice guy.
In fact, when women would get to know me better, a lot of them would
make a move on me because they saw the qualities that I had, but I just
didn’t have the leadership or self-belief to respond. I also thought
they were just desperate for going for someone like me because I didn’t
agree that I was high value.
DayGameAdam: How did you first hear about School of Attraction?
I joined SydneySarge, and then started noticing posts by DJ DANTE
(School of Attraction Head Coach, Damien Diecke). I really liked the
these posts because they were completely different to conventional
pickup material. I had read “The Game”, but when I implemented it, I
ended up feeling like crap and also hurting a few women. It didn’t get
me anywhere, and even if it did, I didn’t like the way it was getting me
there. I felt terrible with myself. It wasn’t worth it. So after
sending an email to Damien, I checked out his website.
That’s when I was really impressed. I saw the SOA Honour Code and also
the Video section. After checking out these two sections of the website,
I knew that I’d definitely join SOA.
DayGameAdam: What was your main reason for you wanting to enrol in School of Attraction’s Masculine Confidence Intensive course?
My reason for joining was because I really wanted to change and
become a more confident version of myself. I knew that I could attract
women, I know I’m a decent guy, so I didn’t want to change my
personality. I wanted to attract women who liked me. So I just needed
the guts to be ok with showing women who I was. That’s what I got from
SOA. This is worth so much more than gimmicks which will only work for a
very narrow range of people who have that type of specific personality.
DayGameAdam: How would you describe how you felt before your first
practical session? I imagine you were nervous and excited yes? How did
that session go for you?
I pretended to be ok. But really, I was really not ok. I was shaking,
shivering, and I actually felt like throwing up (I know that sounds
bad, but it’s the truth). I couldn’t think properly. And I almost
fainted when I did my first approach. But toward the end of the
practical, I just had the awesome wave of excitement flow over my body. I
felt really proud at what I had just done. I had started to enter into a
league of actions which not many guys can do.
DayGameAdam: How would you describe your journey over the
remainder of the Masculine Confidence Intensive course? What
expectations did you have for yourself and did you exceed them?
I just wanted to be able to approach women by myself, and number
close by myself, by the end of the course. I thought that if I could get
rid of my fears of approaching, and build enough rapport to get
numbers, then I would just be crazy happy. It’s now the end of the
Masculine Confidence Intensive course for me, and I can happily say that
I have been able to approach and number close by myself. I reached my
goals. And what’s more, I have approached women in the most crazy
situations. I have really become fearless. But now that I think about
it, I have also been on a few instant dates, second, and third dates. I
guess that I have exceeded my expectations in that sense, I never
thought that would be possible from meeting someone on the street. I
have just become a really confident guy.
Now if you’re reading this and thinking, well that’s not really
impressive, you have to know where I have come from, not how far I have
come. For the past two years of my life, I have been literally socially
isolated because of a medical condition, and specifically, the drugs
they put me to correct my condition changed my appearance drastically.
My face was the size of a watermelon, I was 20 kilos overweight (I have
the stretchmarks and photos to prove), the medication also took away my
ability to speak and think properly. I only had 2 friends over the past 2
years. And from me to go from being socially isolated, and out of shape
both physically and mentally, to being able to get the contact details
of girls who look like supermodels on the street, or in even in girls
shops, then you can see why I’m just really happy and excited. And when I
say socially isolated, I mean it. I remember crying like a baby for 10
minutes in front of my doctor to get me off that medication so that I
could just have a chance to fight to get my body back and then get out
there and meet people again. I cried so badly that they actually
hospitalised me and immediately started to take the drugs away.
Without School of Attraction’s Masculine Confidence Intensive course,
I wouldn’t have been able to do all this so quickly, or smoothly. I
still have tons to learn, but SOA has given me the ability to take it
from here and continue my development because I can approach by myself
now. Without fail, I approach women every week, and I also get a little
better at the entire process, every week. Importantly, now I’m starting
to have a lot more fun, whereas before I’d be nervous and see it as a
job. I’m also getting more dates and results these days because I’m
improving, so this also makes it easier to keep going.
DayGameAdam: One thing that I was really impressed about your
progress was the “fearlessness” that you mentioned earlier whereby
towards the end of the Masculine Confidence Intensive course, you were
able to approach literally any woman in literally any situation. What do
you think the key to becoming so fearless is?
STEP 1: Get help from other people who will hold you accountable and
push you into sets if you chicken out. Go out with other guys from SOA.
STEP 2: Get your mind right. Discover out the way you think. Find out
the thoughts that flow through you mind. Write them down on paper.
Challenge them, change them.
Here is an example of what I caught myself thinking, and how I changed it:
“I don’t want to approach because what if I get rejected?”
Point 1: I’m only scared because I don’t know the girls yet. But I
get accepted 9 times out of 10 times because girls absolutely love
compliments. They walk away literally skipping. Most girls also respect
guys who approach properly because it takes huge confidence and hardly
any guys do it.
Point 2: There isn’t actually any problem with rejection because why
should I continue to desire someone who doesn’t like who I am when there
are others who will? I don’t want the approval of every girl because I
don’t want to constantly push to be loved. And everyone is unique so
some guys will attract girls that I can’t and vice versa.
“What if other people see me approaching and being rejected?”
It doesn’t matter if people see me being rejected. I don’t need the
approval of everyone. Why should I let others stop me from achieving my
goals? And who will remember after a few minutes? Most people won’t even
notice because they will be too busy. And they probably won’t even be
able to tell what I’m doing.
“What if I run out of things to say or I’m just not compatible with her?”
I don’t have to change my core personality or values because my aim
is not to attract or impress every woman. Winning over girls by
manipulation is empty. I want a girl who supports and likes me as I am.
My test is whether a girl still shows an interest and we have chemistry
when I’m not purposely trying to impress.
“That girl is WAY too attractive to approach.”
I can approach attractive women because that is only my perception.
Whoever I think is attractive will be average to someone else. And
underneath they are only human and so they have exactly the same needs.
I’ve been treated really well by some hot girls and badly by some ugly
girls, and vice versa.
“I can’t approach that girl because she is sitting down/in a girls store etc…”
My thoughts about an approach are irrelevant. I try to analyse girls
and the situation to determine if I should approach, but my mind always
creates excuses. But these excuses are not reality but simply my view. I
know because when I have just approached anyway, these thoughts have
proven unreliable and inaccurate, because I have still number closed. If
she is cute, and not with a guy, I can approach.
“I don’t feel right today, I’m just not motivated. I need to wait until I feel good and happy about this.”
Point 1: I can still approach despite low motivation. My lack of
state is only an illusion. I’ll never feel motivated, right, or happy
before an approach because these states are only created by action and
not prior to action – so be completely cool with feeling terrible when
you first start to approach, and then just be amazed at how well the
rest of your day pans out.”
Point 2: Whatever is worthwhile is never easy to get. If it’s hard,
then I’m on the right track. If I won without a fight, life would be
pointless and dull. I actually need challenges. I might as well also
just enjoy this entire process because I can’t ever run away since the
rule for anything in life will always be “no pain, no gain”.
STEP 3: Be consistent, practice a little every day, and you will
become desensitised. Even if you can only afford to do a single set,
just get blown out if you need to.
STEP 4: Really believe in yourself. This is perhaps one of the most
important steps. Once you start getting dates, you have to know and
believe in your value as a complete person. Why are you awesome? Why are
you worthy? What are your strengths?
DayGameAdam: How would your describe your mindset now when you see
a beautiful girl you want to talk to? What should other guys who want
to emulate your ability to approach women be thinking to help then
achieve similar fearlessness?
This is my mindset:
I can never lose when I choose to approach because I always gain
experience, my chance of success also accumulates with each attempt, and
to overcome the worst rejections or dead-ends has been a cakewalk in
comparison to live with not trying. Anything is better than not
approaching because that is always an automatic loss.
And also, with experience, guys will just start to see how harmless
this whole process really is, and as soon as that happens, fun starts to
creep in, and when that happens, you will really start to be on the
right track. You will talk to beautiful women because you also love it,
not because you have to. It never really works well when you have to
push yourself out of negative things to approach, for example, non
approaches will be shot, or have to do push ups, or are losers etc. It
works very well when you just approach because you’re so happy at what
is possible, and you’re just happy with yourself and your life.
DayGameAdam: You mentioned that you exceeded your goals of being
able to approach, attract and date beautiful girls, what were some of
your specific proudest moment and memories of some of your most
memorable interactions with women?
I have a lot actually. But perhaps one of the best was stopping two
very attractive (and also very high value) women on the street and
scoring an instant date with them to walk over the Sydney Harbour Bridge
with them, and this was on a mentor session as well, so it really
helped my buddy progress and see what was possible. He came in and
winged me, and I think that gave him tons of confidence. I built so much
rapport that one of the girls REALLY liked me, and constantly messaged
me, so I hung out with her quite a few times after that day as well.
DayGameAdam: What tips and advice do you have for other guys just
starting out on their pickup journey? What things should they do to
increase their chances of success?
The single main thing you can do to improve, especially if you’re
just starting out, is to get help from guys who know what they are
doing. For School of Attraction students – just have an open mind, and
listen to feedback from the SOA coaches. It can be a real shock
sometimes, but all my feedback has been spot on, and once I’ve changed
it, I got better results. Also, check out the articles and videos on the
website. That was a huge help for me.
DayGameAdam: I know you recently started mentoring other students
as part of SOA’s mentoring program. How did you find that experience to
be and do you think it helped strengthen what you had learned in the MCI
course by teaching it to others?
The mentoring was just really rewarding. I left with a huge smile on
my face, because I could just tell I had made a difference. And it also
reinforced what I had learnt in my MCI course so far too. It’s just a
win/win situation. It was like a mini-refresher. By teaching, you really
learn the material more for yourself. Also, any set that my buddies
didn’t want to do, I went and did myself. It really forced me to move up
to a higher level and I surprised myself at how I could just step up
when needed. I performed better when I was out by myself as a result.
For School of Attraction students who would like to read more about Ryan’s journey, his journal is located HERE
For non School of Attraction members who are interested in viewing
the videos, articles and courses that Ryan mentions above, please visit:
www.schoolofattraction.com.au
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